that i went to a private meeting with president obama at the white house. lots of people supported them, over for chats, coffee, doughnut ts burke this looks like the msnbc commentary, people who host those commentary shows that they're on the team? >> well, thank is the impression. i just don't see what use it is to go when you can't get anything out of the president. in other words, you're basically -- the problem with this is it seems to be an act of capitulation. please spin me -- >> lots of proponents have gone to off the record briefings. >> no. >> they've been described as influential. >> influential progressives. >> did they talk with you? >> what bothers me is they go about it in lockstep silence and they won't talk what they asked the president because they're not bound to off the record. they can me what they said, how they viewed this thing. but i called almost every one of these people, oh, i'm sorry, i can't say a word. this is like tor grets or something. >> at least you called them. let me get a bring. coming up next, a death in the subways